The REAL Lion of Judah
For a long time now, there has been a small percentage of people that are completely convinced that Tafari Makonnen is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and he alone can claim the title “the Lion of Judah”. For those who are wondering just who is this Tafari character, you may be more familiar with Ras Tafari (Ras – meaning duke or chief).
I would like to make it clear, that there are Israelites living in every continent on earth..and as you will see…our people are drawn to Ethiopia as if it is somehow a holy land of God. Come out of her my people!
Here’s a picture of him as a young man.
You may be more familiar with the picture below..Makonnen has been idolized and worshipped… which is amazing because the followers of this false prophet all condemn Babylon in their music..BUT have no clue who the ancient Babylonians are…
So after Marcus Garvey procalimed Makonnen as the Conquring lion of Judah, he (Makonnen) was embraced by many West Indian brothers and sisters as the Messiah incarnate.

Marcus Garvey..false witness.. Selassie was a nobody..not the king of Judah! (well..that’s not entirely true…Selassie was a dictator and he did steal most of the money out of his own country..and ..he was a coward that ran when his country got invaded)
Question: Did king Solomon really have a son named Menelik?
Answer: NO! You can read the names of King Solomon’s children that became kings after his reign.
Question: So what about 1 Kings chapter 10 vs. 1-10
1: And when the queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the LORD, she came to prove him with hard questions.
2: And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.
3: And Solomon told her all her questions: there was not any thing hid from the king, which he told her not.
4: And when the queen of Sheba had seen all Solomon’s wisdom, and the house that he had built,
5: And the meat of his table, and the sitting of his servants, and the attendance of his ministers, and their apparel, and his cupbearers, and his ascent by which he went up unto the house of the LORD; there was no more spirit in her.
Answer: Makeda (Queen of Sheba) was in awe of the riches of King Solomon.. “no more spirit in her”. She had never witnessed anyone that was as glorious as Solomon the Israelite King.
Let’s read on..
6: And she said to the king, It was a true report that I heard in mine own land of thy acts and of thy wisdom.
7: Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.
8: Happy are thy men, happy are these thy servants, which stand continually before thee, and that hear thy wisdom.
9: Blessed be the LORD thy God, which delighted in thee, to set thee on the throne of Israel: because the LORD loved Israel for ever, therefore made he thee king, to do judgment and justice.
10: And she gave the king an hundred and twenty talents of gold, and of spices very great store, and precious stones: there came no more such abundance of spices as these which the queen of Sheba gave to king Solomon.
So the Queen, like everyone else that was awestruck by King Solomon paid homage by giving healthy donations of their riches to us….now let’s see if she ‘found favor in the eyes” of King Solomon, or if he “delighted in her” and “took her to wife”…
verse 13: And king Solomon gave unto the queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside that which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants.
Ok…so whatsoever she asked… again in verses 2-3
2: And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.
3: And Solomon told her all her questions: there was not any thing hid from the king, which he told her not.
So all her desire was that he answered every question and sent her home….but some people claim that meant that he got her pregnant and sent her home…when did that happen?
- In what chapter/verse or on what page can we read where the Queen of Sheba sent messengers to King Solomon that his son was born in Ethiopia?
- At what point in the books of Kings, Chronicles or in any of the writings of the Bible did King Solomon send for his son Menelik?
- When the Kingdom was split in two (Judah and Israel), why is there no mention of a king named Menelik?
So many people put so much faith in this one account of the only meeting of Solomon and Makeda (Queen of Sheba) when in fact, it is well documented in Ethiopian history that the story of Menelik is a fable.
moving on…

FALSE PROPHET!!

The Lion of Judah?
These followers of Makonnen will quickly quote Revelations 5, as if Makonnen can actually lay any claim to being the Lion of Judah
Revelation 5:5“And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.”
Do they have a clue as to who this Lion of Judah is?
Revelation 22:16 “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
Let’s read Revelation 5 again…
Revelation 5:5-7
5: And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7: And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
So who is this Lamb that is the root and offspring of David ,that took the book out of the Father’s hand?
John 1:29: “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.”
How was Christ the offspring of David?
Matthew 1:17 “So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.”
Jesus Christ can trace his lineage (through his mother, the virgin Mary..all the way back to King David)
Hebrews 7:14: “For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.”
So it is clear to us that, the Father placed Christ in the womb of a virgin, who is a descendant of the Tribe of Judah.
Now for a treat…. Most Rastafarians only know about this flag..with the famous lion with the crown and scepter..
But, what they don’t know..is that this is NOT the flag of Ethiopia….
Gambella..NO!
Benishangul Gumuz..NO!
Harari..NO!
Somali..NO!
Southern states/cities…NO!
Tigray …NO!
Oromiya…NO!
The true flag of Ethiopia has a Pentagram on it…the 5 Pointed star associated with Satan worship (after all..these are Nimrod’s people)
Wave it if youre proud!
Here another group shot..
Nice and clear (at the Olympics)…I’m still trying to see the Lion on the flag…
Oh..here’s Selassie after he “returned home from hiding ..er…seeking refuge from the Queen”
No lion on that flag…just the 5 pointed star..I wonder why?
The famous mountain in Ethiopia that’s supposed to be a Lion (they say you have to look real closely….maybe they should look closely at 2 Kings 17 chapter)
The famous city of Axum….famous for it’s Obelisks…”groves” idols that the God of Israel specifically forbade the Israelites from building..and here they are in Ethiopia…being treasured.
First of all…let’s establish that the Ethiopains are the children of the Ancient Babylonians (Babel means confusion..which is exactly what they have brought to the earth since the time of their first king..Nimrod)
Genesis 10:6-8
6: And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
7: And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
8: And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
If you notice the names of these places…
2 Kings 17:24-28
24: And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
25: And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not the LORD: therefore the LORD sent lions among them, which slew some of them.
26: Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the God of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the God of the land.
27: Then the king of Assyria commanded, saying, Carry thither one of the priests whom ye brought from thence; and let them go and dwell there, and let him teach them the manner of the God of the land.
28: Then one of the priests whom they had carried away from Samaria came and dwelt in Bethel, and taught them how they should fear the LORD.
So as punishment, the Lord brought these strange ETHIOPIAN nations into our land and eventually they took over..but look at verses 27-28. They had to be taught the Laws of the land by an Israelite priest.

page 14
“There was an Ethiopian civilization in southern Mesopotamia (Babylon), but the people in this region did not use their tribal name, Ethiopia, to designate their nationality. they called themselves by the name of the cities that they constructed and inhabited, or they called themselves by an event that happened there; for example, God confused the language of the people at the Tower of Babel (Babel means confusion in Hebrew). This is why the Ethiopian tribes called themselves Babylonians, referring to the name of the city that they constructed.”
Page 15
” “Cush begat Nimrod;…” The word Cush means Ethiopia, and Cush was the father of the Ethiopians. For the meaning of the word Cush, see Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary. Nimrod was a mighty Ethiopian conquer and builder in the land of Shinar”
So there is absolutely no way that Makonnen could possibly be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ…. Nimrod maybe..but not the Only Begotten of the Father!
Ok.. so now that’s cleared up.. how does God feel about the Ethiopians anyway?
2 Chronicles 14:11-13
11: And Asa cried unto the LORD his God, and said, LORD, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou art our God; let not man prevail against thee.
12: So the LORD smote the Ethiopians before Asa and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled.
13: And Asa and the people that were with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the LORD, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil.
Isaiah 20:3-5
3: And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;
4: So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
5: And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.
Isaiah 43:3-4
3: For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
4: Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.
Ezekiel 30:1-5
1: The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
2: Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Howl ye, Woe worth the day
3: For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
4: And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt, and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down.
5: Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.
Zephaniah 2:12
12: Ye Ethiopians also, ye shall be slain by my sword.
Bonus…look at the Ethiopians shopping for food….
Vs. Eritrea where there are Israelites living today..you can see that they are way more civilized than these children of Ham!
But I think you’ve got the point…The Lord our God does not recognize these children of Babylon..Come out of her my people!
[Article closed - no longer receiving comments unless you're giving props. Otherwise your comment will be deleted! Find something else to get mad about OR go and debate this with your so-called scholars..as much you guys like to speak against the truth..you can't prove that he has any connection to King Solomon..where's his royal lineage? Selassie was a nobody, that became a somebody because the Children of God worship him...why do you think Buddha is still a nobody compared to Christ? Because Buddha is not revered by the Children of God like they do to this Ethiopian Heathen!]
Don’t worry, we’re working on an article to show how ALL the world religions stole the history surrounding the Birth of the Son of God Jesus Christ and set themselves up.. and are being passed off as something legit! The Bible says that all the Gods of the nations are IDOLS! ……AND… the children of Israel, received their “faith”.. their laws from the hands of God.. So where did ALL other religions come from? ..we’re going to prove shortly that ALL religions came from Satan..that’s why they all have one thing in common…
you gotta come back and get that answer..



All what is written above is fake history and false.U still did not know Ethiopia!!U better write history of Ethiopia w.r.t drougt,famine backwardness .Ethiopia will remain in these conditions for centuries as habashas are bosting just for sake of “good name and image”.
What do we get from this stupid , backward ,and false history?Bread????
Habashas are enemy of Ethiopia!!
[Saints Unit Response]
What has been written is factual information taken from the Bible and extensive research. The Lord God of Israel, is not the God of the “Ethiopian people”, they are the children of Ham and known also as the ancient Babylonians.
Can you point out what specifically is incorrect?
Except for the people who benifited from the tyranny of these men, they are hated by the Ethiopian people and remembered as tyrants. This is a fact. There were many emperors that ruled before Selassie, some are recorded to have ruled more than once, yet his name along with Menelik are known to have been brutal and barbaric.
We chose not to include the fact that Ethiopia is mainly a muslim country… and the rastafarian practice and worhsip of Selassie is not something that the majority of Ethiopians practice. Again, there are several other points that could have been included to disprove the entire myth of Makonnen being anywhere close to a “Holy Man”, but the main focus of this piece is the true identity of the REAL LION of JUDAH, is a black Jew named Jesus Christ.
Read the other comments below that support the history presented in this piece.
Girma Zeleke
August 26, 2006
I really admired your research-based article about RAS MOKONEN. The Amara tribe thrived on misinterpretation of
of history in order to win the support of christian nations against the large population of Islam living in and outside Ethiopia. They claimed being ” an island surrounded by sea of Moslem.” Menelik was a ruthless king who conqured the two Moslem nations, WOLLO and Harar. Ras MOkonen was appointed by Menelik as Governor of Harar. His son Haille Selasie was born in Gara Mulata, near Harar. Haille Selasie had no blood linkage with Menelik, but through maneuvering organized a mob with the support of church and overthrew King Eliase who was on visit to Harar and Jigjiga.Eliase who was the son of King Mohamed Ali, the ruler of Wollo, who was captured by Menelik and forced to convert to christianity.Though he verbally accepted the change of faith,his heart remain intact in his faith.
Eliase mobolised Somalis as well as other Moslems and waged a war against christian mobs. The two opposing force met at Asaba Tafere area. Unfortunately, ELiase was defeated and taken to Addis Abeba where he remained in jail. The defeat of Eliase was the culmination of the last chance that Ethiopia would have remained under Moslem rule. While Eliase was on visit to Moslem area, the French Consulate in Dire Dawa was sending message to Addis Ababa telling them Eliase was organizing arms to turn Ethiopia into a Moslem nation.
Having defeated the last Moslem uprising, the daughter of Menelik became the Queen of Ethiopia, and Haille Selasie, the crown prince. It was by means of conniving with Chritian church against Eliase that H.S. became king following the death of Queen Zawdito. During Second World War, when Italy invaded Ethiopia, Haille Selasie killed Eliase in Jail before he fled the country to England. The reason why he killed Eliase at the moment of his departure was that he had the opinion that Italy would appoint Eliase in his absentia.
Mohamed Hersi Bahal
August 26, 2006
What is said in this babylon properganda is all the proof we need to remind ourselfs that the oppression of the corupted followers of the biggest con who lust for war and oppression of the truth are still living by what the nazi regime in the vaticine preach. Hopfull one day theese uneducated fools will see what His Emperial Majesty HAILE SALASIE WAS ABOUT LOVE FREEDOME AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE TRUTH
[Saints Unit Response]
Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to the article.. Now I’m not quite sure who this “con” is that you’re referring to..but you’re gonna clear that up right?
Now, since you didn’t include any historical reference in your rebuttal, please allow me to remind you that it’s a document FACT, that the “Ethiopian people” are the children of Ham and known also as the ancient Babylonians. So, if that is in fact true… how can this article be “Babylonian propaganda”?
Wouldn’t the “Babylonian” propaganda come from the “Babylonian” people?
Not to get technical, but “Emperial” (among a few others..*hint) is not an actual word.. so I think you meant to say “Imperial”. By the way, what exactly is the TRUTH that Selassie taught?
Can anyone reading this please expound on ANY of the lessons that they learned from Haile Selassie?
pacman86
September 28, 2006
I don’t understand why people like you delve in to subjects that they are not fully conversant with.
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November 1, 2006
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January 20, 2007
Haile Selassie did not call himself these things. They where appointed to him at the time of his baptism.
“Following the Empress Zewditu’s sudden death, Tafari Makonnen was made Emperor and proclaimed Neguse Negest ze-’Ityopp’ya (“King of Kings of Ethiopia”). He was crowned on November 2 as Emperor Haile Selassie I at Addis Ababa’s Cathedral of St. George, in front of representatives from 12 countries. (Haile Selassie had been the baptismal name given to Tafari at his christening as an infant meaning “Power of the Holy Trinity.”) The representatives included Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester (son of British King George V, and brother to Kings Edward VIII, and George VI), Marshal Franchet d’Esperey of France, and the Prince of Udine representing Italy.”
The Emperor introduced Ethiopia’s first written constitution on July 16, 1931, providing for an appointed bicameral legislature. It was the first time that non-noble subjects had any role in official government policy. However, the League’s failure to stop Italy’s invasion of Ethiopia in 1935 led him to five years in exile. The constitution also limited the succession to the throne to the descendants of Emperor Haile Selassie — a detail that caused considerable unhappiness with other dynastic princes, such as the princes of Tigrai, and even his loyal cousin Ras Kassa Hailu.
Did you read anything about his life? Have your read any words he himself has written? I agree that calling him god incarnate is quite possibly farfetched. His words have rung true to me. I have started researching his life 3 days ago after a beautiful revalation by the one I refer to as the “unspoken”. you ignorance and attitude to the uneducated is a disgrace to any godworshipping person. You are the first person I have seen relate Selassie lineage to the bible. I am intrigued to find out more. I read parts of his autobiography and his words of peace and love are something I have never heard of in modern day goevernment. You may be right but to tyry to shove it into someones face is a product of the sin pride. You are the one my freind who needs to do some research as well. and why cant I see half of the words I am typing? You should fix your comment box and give educated people a chance to debate.
In 1963 the Emperor presided over the establishment of the Organisation of African Unity, with the new organisation setting up its headquarters in Addis Ababa. As more and more African states won their independence, he played a pivotal role as a Panafricanist, and along with Modibo Keïta of Mali, was successful in negotiating the Bamako Accords, which brought an end to a border conflict between Morocco and Algeria.
A devastating drought in the Province of Wollo in 1972–73 caused a large famine which was covered up by local officials and kept from Haile Selassie I, who was celebrating his 80th birthday amidst much pomp and ceremony.
Haile Selassie I had no role in organising or promoting the Rastafari movement which for many Rastas is seen as proof of his divinity in that he was no false prophet claiming to be God in order to enjoy the benefits of being a cult leader. He was a devout member of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, as demanded by his political role in Ethiopia, and it was to his role as Emperor of Ethiopia that he devoted his life. His publicly known views towards the Rastafarians varied from sympathy to polite interest.
Yet in his speeches and writings there is substantial material about the spiritual life, and he often addressed his audience in the tone of a spiritual teacher. For instance, he wrote Can anyone reading this please expound on ANY of the lessons that they learned from Haile Selassie?
_”Knowing that material and spiritual progress are essential to man, we must work ceaselessly for the attainment of both…No one should question the faith of others, for no human can judge the ways of God”.
hows that you snotty bastard?
o i forgot you must be holier than thou
Steven Nasta(natty dreaded rasta) Butler
January 25, 2007
And by the way he was De Facto leader of ethiopia in the begginningso he had no ability to change the flag of the contry. He spent his whole life trying to change the powers that be from ruling that country instead of the countryment.
Steven Nasta(natty dreaded rasta) Butler
January 25, 2007
“And similarly with people who have lived by custom only, without learning at school, without absorbing knowledge by the ear or observing and searching with the eye, it is necessary to accustom them, through education, to abandon habits by which they have for long been living, to make them accept new ways— yet not by hasty or cruel methods but by patience and study, gradually and over a prolonged period.”
HAILE SELLASSIE I Emperor of Ethiopia
How is that for truth?
[Saints Unit response]
Well Mr. Butler, I see you are at no shortage of words… however the servants of the Lord must not strive…and though I truly suspect that you may have simply “copied and pasted from WIKI”.. I don’t want to lay any false accusations.. you did mention however “You are the first person I have seen relate Selassie lineage to the bible. I am intrigued to find out more.”
Well the reason for that is because we are the only ones (church, organization or otherwise) that’s teaching the truth about the Bible and about all phony religions, that try justify their beliefs using the Bible.. so not only have we proven that Selassie cannot be a son of Solomon, we have also proven that unless he is in fact and Israelite.. in Isaiah ch. 40 vs. 17 . the God of Israel .. the real “King of Kings” says that all these nations “are as nothing”.. Which will of course include Selassie and all his people that follow him.
As was already proven the Ethiopians are the descents of the Ancient Babylonians .. and any “godworshipping” person that reads the Bible already knows that the Lord has slated ALL the children of Babylon (including America the “Virgin Daughter of Babylon”) for complete destruction..
Let me expound on a few points that you made..
1. Firstly… “have started researching his life 3 days ago after a beautiful revalation by the one I refer to as the “unspoken””
Exactly who is this “unspoken” .. if you mean God.. I’m truly at a loss of how an “unspoken” god can communicate with you? In ancient times the heathen (including the Ethiopians) used a similar term to justify their gods.. because their gods (idols) cannot speak!
“38Their gods of wood, and which are overlaid with gold and silver, are like the stones that be hewn out of the mountain: they that worship them shall be confounded. 39: How should a man then think and say that they are gods, when even the Chaldeans themselves dishonour them? 40: Who if they shall see one dumb that cannot speak, they bring him, and intreat Bel that he may speak, as though he were able to understand. 41: Yet they cannot understand this themselves, and leave them: for they have no knowledge.”
Baruch 6:38-41 (Apocrypha)
The “Chaldeans” I’m sure you are aware.. are the ancient Babylonians.. These were the wise men of Ethiopia.
So what did these foolish people do?
“16: Thus in process of time an ungodly custom grown strong was kept as a law, and graven images were worshipped by the commandments of kings. 17: Whom men could not honour in presence, because they dwelt far off, they took the counterfeit of his visage from far, and made an express image of a king whom they honoured, to the end that by this their forwardness they might flatter him that was absent, as if he were present. ”
(of course you know Rastafarianism is a cult, whether Selassie directly started it or not .. what did he do to correct the minds of these loyal followers.. making images and songs about him?)
“18: Also the singular diligence of the artificer did help to set forward the ignorant to more superstition. ”
(for example.. he in the reincarnation of the Messiah.. the Lion of Judah)
“19: For he, peradventure willing to please one in authority, forced all his skill to make the resemblance of the best fashion. 20: And so the multitude, allured by the grace of the work, took him now for a god, which a little before was but honoured. 21: And this was an occasion to deceive the world: for men, serving either calamity or tyranny, did ascribe unto stones and stocks the incommunicable name.”
(now were not even going to dispute that Selassie was a tyrant.. history speaks for itself…and again they put the “incommunicable” upon these Heathen and the “unspoken” that supposedly reveal great mysteries to his followers)
“22: Moreover this was not enough for them, that they erred in the knowledge of God; but whereas they lived in the great war of ignorance, those so great plagues called they peace. ”
Wisdom of Solomon 14:16-22 (Apocrypha)
To follow Selassie or any other doctrine other than that which was taught by Jesus Christ is a war of ignorance…
You also said “No one should question the faith of others”
Fact: The Ethiopians (Babylonians) had the children of Israel in captivity ..correct?
Judgement of God: This is our faith.. forget the faith of others.. this is the one that counts!
“He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.”
Revelation 13:10
2. Secondly … We have already proved that the true “King of Kings” is Jesus Christ, God the Son.. so for Selassie or anyone else to lay claim to that title is blasphemy… Of course Selassie wasn’t the only one..there was also Artaxerxes (also spelled Ahasuerus) the king of Persia
“11: Now this is the copy of the letter that the king Artaxerxes gave unto Ezra the priest, the scribe, even a scribe of the words of the commandments of the LORD, and of his statutes to Israel. 12: Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.”
Ezra 7:11-12
“Now it came to pass in the days of Ahasuerus, (this is Ahasuerus which reigned, from India even unto Ethiopia, over an hundred and seven and twenty provinces)”
Ester 1:1
Imagine that? Before Selassie was born.. the King of Persia, who also ruled over Ethiopia also called himself “king of kings”
So you see.. the heathen love to call themselves these things, but no fret, in the book of Revelations, Jesus Christ is going to take all their crowns.
3. Thirdly and finally.. “He was a devout member of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, as demanded by his political role in Ethiopia”
Well see that’s the problem.. unless he was in fact an Israelite .. (and we’ve already proven he wasn’t the son of Solomon and the “dismissed” Queen of Sheba) ..his following the church doesn’t mean a thing!
“23: Until the LORD removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day. 24: And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof. 25: And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there, that they feared not the LORD: therefore the LORD sent lions among them, which slew some of them. 26: Wherefore they spake to the king of Assyria, saying, The nations which thou hast removed, and placed in the cities of Samaria, know not the manner of the God of the land: therefore he hath sent lions among them, and, behold, they slay them, because they know not the manner of the God of the land.”
2 Kings 17:23-26
That’s how the Ethiopians got in that land, now all of a sudden they claim they are from the lineage of Israel!? They had to be taught by a priest.. now where do priests teach? .. you got it.. in a church ..lol The true Israelites that lived in Ethiopia also had churches and they worshipped God the Father and Jesus Christ…not like those foolish Ethiopians (Selassie’s teachers) that claim they have the Ark of the Covenant..lol
“3: He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee. 4: And he must needs go through Samaria. 5: Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph. 6: Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour. 7: There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. 8: (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.) 9: Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.”
(see how arrogant this Ethiopian woman was?)
“11: The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12: Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? ”
(Our father Jacob?.. see she already started to believe the lie..lol)
“19: The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20: Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21: Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22: Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. ”
(in other words.. your time here is about to be up.. the Ethiopians are about to be evicted out of the Holy Land)
“24: God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25: The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26: Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. ”
(Guess she wasn’t trying to hear that right.. “I don’t know what I worship.. well when the Messiah comes we’ll see about that”.. but guess what.. This Ethiopian woman was talking to the Messiah..lol Just like these fools running around giving all kinds of homage to Selassie, a Babylonian .. as if when the Christ returns he’s going to change his mind and not destroy all the Babylonians and their kingdom..)
So with thatSelassie was a nobody.. .. and you guys can follow him all you want into that war of ignorance.. all the points that we’ve made have ALL been proven..
By the way.. here’s a bonus.. The only people that can claim to be holier than thou are Israelites.. which I am.. but that “term” is referring to Israelites that have turned their back on God and are following other doctrines.. like Buddhism, Christianity .. you know.. worshipping Selassie
” 1: I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.”
(Israelites called Negroes, Hispanics, native American Indians etc.)
“2: I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; 3: A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; 4: Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine’s flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; 5: Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. ”
(see ..that’s what wicked Israelite that left the law.)
“6: Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, 7: Your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.”
(Like calling Selassie the “King of Kings”.. you know…stuff like that)
“9: And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. ”
(Looks like the Ethiopians don’t learn this verse in those Othodox churches)
“19: And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.”
(And remember what Christ told that Ethiopian woman.. she won’t be in Jerusalem or in that mountain when the real King of Kings comes to establish his kingdom)
All you Israelites that are following Selassie need to repent! (Don’t fret were working on an article on Dr. York as well)
Steven Nasta(natty dreaded rasta) Butler
January 26, 2007
Babylon was an ancient city in Mesopotamia (modern Al Hillah, Iraq),
How is this ethiopia
Babylon is 50 miles south of bagdad.
That makes the Iraqis the babylonians doesnt it
Gods name cannot be spoken by any man
It is not a name our toungues can fathom
[Saints Unit response]
“Gods name cannot be spoken by any man It is not a name our toungues can fathom” …. seriously? I’m not even going to respond to that .. just say you don’t know his name ..
One thing you “self taught ineternal visualists” have in common .. you all claim a great “some-being” came to you and revealed mysteries .. but never identified himself .. yet in the Bible when the God of Israel came to Moses or the prophets he always identified himself as the Lord God of Israel .. so we know exactly who’s communicating with us .. but .. somehow you’re able to “internally” comprehend the true identity of this “unspoken” .. ask him next time if his name is “Shatan”… lol
I have already proven that the Persian Empire stretched into Ethiopia …
“Now it came to pass in the days of Ahasuerus, (this is Ahasuerus which reigned, from India even unto Ethiopia, over an hundred and seven and twenty provinces)”
Ester 1:1
Now on any Ancient map .. you will see that Persia (as in Persian rugs) is in India … and it extends into Ethiopia (just as the ancient Israelites recorded) .. but you think it’s just scribbling ..
you can try these links: http://www.earth-history.com/Persian/images/map-persia.gif or …http://www.american.edu/ted/images4/falla.gif
You can clearly see that Ancient Babylon is shown in modern day Iraq.. does this mean that this is the full extention of the Babylonian kingdom?
NO… the Persian empire conqured the Baylonian empire.. So once and for all .. who are the Babylonians and who are the Arabs?
“6: And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. 7: And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. 8: And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9: He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. 10: And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel (as in Babylonian kingdom) , and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11: Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, 12: And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.”
Genesis 10:6-12
Now take a wild guess where Asshur and Havilah are?
Ishmael the Arabs, who came AFTER nimrod.. took over the city of Havilah.. Nineveh I’m sure you should already know was also in the area of Iraq.
“16: These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations. 17: And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the spirit and died; and was gathered unto his people. 18: And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren.”
Genesis 25:16-18
Modern day Iraq, home of the Arabs, was once a part of the Babylonian kingdom… Ishmael took over these cities.. so to answer your question .. or comment .. no . The Ethiopians (Cush / Kush) and the Arabs (children of Ishmael) are not the same people…
“Moreover the LORD stirred up against Jehoram the spirit of the Philistines, and of the Arabians, that were near the Ethiopians”
2 Chronicles 21:16
Near as in their cities and towns were very close… as already proven the Ishmaelites lived in some of the same places as the Ethiopians ..or to make it plain .. the Ishmaelites lived in some of the cities that were once a part of the ancient Babylonian empire (“the beginning of his kingdom was Babel“).
Bonus .. for those that say.. “well.. how can you prove that the children of Ishmael are the Arabs?”
“22: For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23″: But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24″: Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25: For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.”
Galtians 4:22-25
What was the name of this son of Abraham and Agar (Hagar) ..
“And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram”
Genesis 16:16
Abram? I thought you said Abraham?
Yes I did ..
“3: And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, 4: As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. 5: Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
Genesis 17:3-5
(Don’t take my word for it .. ask any “muslim” or any professor if Ethiopia was in fact once a part of the Babylonian empire)
Now this might sound like “foolish pride” on my part.. but as you can see .. I’ve done my research .. and since you have an “internal truth” .. there is no reason to continue an endless debate… since you don’t have any “scribblings” to refrence your facts and have an “internal truth”.
Mr. Butler
January 27, 2007
I do not follow your disproof of his lineage to solomon and sheba your pretenses are as false as your religious beliefs. One love my freind. I worship in my temple (body)
I and I Unlike yourself I do not bound myself to the scribblings of many anceint people. My belief in the almighty is inward as it should be for all.
What of your pride is that not a sin?
[Saints Unit response]
You do realize that from my standpoint, it’s very unusual for someone to accuse me of having “sinful pride” when they address you with comments like “hows that you snotty bastard?” and “o i forgot you must be holier than thou”.
In any event, there are many other articles that you may also respond to … since you’ve just shot yourself in the foot “the scribblings of many anceint people” .. An unlearned statement like that begs the question… first of all.. the Bible is not “scribblings” and your god Selassie and his foolish followers base their entire salvation on the Bible. Ask any Ethiopian (other than the native muslims) what’s the book of God and the prophets… the Bible of course. So scribbling?.. I think not.
Please allow me to ask .. So since you don’t based you beliefs of any ancient people .. we are to belive that you somehow realized or were awaken to this absolute “internal” truth? lol (admit it that’s laughable).
Mr. Butler
January 27, 2007
This comming from a man searching for the truth?
I have already found the peace, oneness and unity with the trinity. I am guessing it is your jealousy of this that is fueling your ignorance. Because I believe you are a snotty little bastard does not mean I believe your are lower than me or less spiritually connected. We all have things to overcome in our lives. i believe they are called tribulations? It is your flawed belief system that causes you to insert assumptions within the voids of the conversation, acting as if they where truth. We are all gods children. But you are pushing the envelope by your constant need to be perceived as a holy and intelligent individual. Furthermore every book I have ever seen has stated ‘the fact’ that Tafari Makonnen was of the solomon lineage. Why don’t you address that instead of trying all of this ‘religious trashtalking’?
[Saints Unit response]
At this point, I’m sure anyone reading this can clearly see that you have ran out of “information” suitable for a dialogue.. and have resorted to name calling .. I’m not going to be dragged into an “emotional exchange” ..
My only comment Mr. Butler is this.. and I quote you..
“Furthermore every book I have ever seen has stated ‘the fact’ that Tafari Makonnen was of the solomon lineage. Why don’t you address that instead of trying all of this ‘religious trashtalking’?”
I’d like to point to another quote …
This was posted on January 25th 2007…
“Did you read anything about his life? Have your read any words he himself has written? I agree that calling him god incarnate is quite possibly farfetched. His words have rung true to me. I have started researching his life 3 days ago after a beautiful revalation by the one I refer to as the “unspoken”. you ignorance and attitude to the uneducated is a disgrace to any godworshipping person.”
3 days!? .. so that means that you have accumulated and amassed great wisdom and read many books about Selassie that gave indisputable proof that he is in fact the son of Solomon.. whithin 3 days?
again .. “Furthermore every book I have ever seen has stated ‘the fact’ that Tafari Makonnen was of the solomon lineage”
Here’s an interesting point Mr. Butler .. let’s just say that he was an Israelite … how does that help the Ethiopian people .. how does that bring them salvation because they had an Israelite rule over them? Of course he was not an Israelite but a bootleg and carbon copy of the real thing.. The God of the Bible (a book that I’m sure he read) .. is againt the Ethiopians .. that .. you can read on your own Mr. Butler..
I’m sure you must have read quite a few books, because a wise man such as yourself would not base his faith on 1 or 2 books right?
So on January 25th .. you mentioned you have been studying for 3 days .. that means your studies began on January 23rd .. and today is January 29th .. so that’s 7 days .. 1 entire week Mr. Butler ..
Let’s just suppose you meant “3 years” instead .. and after all your studying of these book … your best effort is “I believe you are a snotty little bastard does not mean I believe your are lower than me or less spiritually connected..”
Spiritually connected to what or whom Mr. Butler .. do you think I’m spiritually connected to God? ..er.. the “unspoken?”
If that’s true …
“37: If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38: But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. ”
1 Corinthians 14:37-38
Such intelligence.. Here’s my final response to you Mr. Butler ..
“12: And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. 13: Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”
Ecclesiasticus 12:12-13
Where Selassie is right now .. he can’t even help himself.. “Burn, Babylon Burn!”
Mr Nasta
January 29, 2007
Every man has been given salvation. Jesus made sure of that. Regardless of lineage. You must be above god to be able to take it away because he is the only one I know of that should pass judgement. I am not damned because I am an american. THe land I was borne in has nothing to do with my soul and how I conduct my self in his image. I walk with I and I he is there as I am there he is one as I am one our love is one love eternal and forever. And that is the harmony of enlightenment. I wish that to you my brother. As I hope you would wish that for me. All of gods children united in one love that is what I see for the future of mankind. All of the unrighteous know who they are. I and I know why they are because they need to let go of the hate and accept love, JAH, GOD, Allah, or any other diety you chose as long as it is with love.
13: Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”
Ecclesiasticus 12:12-13
I like that
One more question
Isnt babylon 50 miles south of Baghdad? and does that mean that iraqis are the true babylonians?
[Saints Unit repsonse]
Your last question about Baghdad was already answered ..you’re asking the same question twice… now how did we go from Selassie to Jesus loving every one, and providing salvation for all? What scripture are you refferencing to draw that conclusion?
Hey don’t forget to join the forum … the idea was I post the info in the blog and and “debate” will be held in the fourm.
http://saintsunit.org/phpBB2/index.php
Ras Tafari and jr gong Damian Marley
January 30, 2007
I just now read some of what you wrote
and you said
“One thing you “self taught ineternal visualists” have in common .. you all claim a great “some-being” came to you and revealed mysteries .. but never identified himself .. ”
When did I say I didnt know what it was.
didnt I tell you what it was?
And why do I represent all internal visualists? I am only one (but I and I are with me)
You must know all others to make such an assumption?
“37: If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38: But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. ”
so are you assuming you are some kind of prophet? that sounds almost blasphemous
you may be
but
all I hear is a message of hate so who are you prophesising for? do yo know who walks with you?
dude
smoke a bowl
chill out
and read some words of His Imperial Majesty Hail Selassie I Ras Tafari Makonnen
see if you feel differently about humans
[Saints Unit response]
Are we still dealing with this Selassie guy? … you still haven’t posted any of your “facts” to show that he was of the seed of Solomon .. it’s been more than a week that you’ve been reading up on him
Let’s keep the convo about grade-school level … “smoke a bowl and chill?” .. see that’s the problem with all you rastas and Selassie worshippers .. (and the 5%’ers ..I’ll get to them in due time) .. you guys are always getting high and can’t process a complete thought. And for the record, I’m not attacking you personally ..but your conversation is all over the place… let’s first deal with the proof that you claim you have that shows clearly that Selassie is indeed of the lineage of King Solomon..
As far as hate .. well.. I don’t recall emphasizing hatred towards anyone .. I may have used the word once.. but that was never the point or focus of anything that I wrote…
If you’re concerned that I have “hate” in me then have you not read the words of King Solomon .. the “supposedly” father of Selassie (by lineage)?
“1: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven 8: A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.””
Ecclesiastes 3:1, 8
Now you would think Solomon would know better right? I’m sure you know that King Solomon wrote these wise words AFTER he prayed to God and was given the spirit of wisdom (and riches).
what about King David … since all you Rastas and Selassie worshippers read the Psalms ..lol Have you not heard? Have you not read?
“10: Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. 11: Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. ”
Psalms 51:10-11
King David had the HOLY SPIRIT .. and it didn’t come to him from smoking a little ganja like these bufoons that call themselves Rastas claim.. and trust me .. those guys don’t have a clue as to what the Holy Spirit is .. they think Babylon is the police dept. at least you know it’s a country.
“17: How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! 18: If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. 19: Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. 20: For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. 21: Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22: I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. 23: Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: 24: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. ”
Pslams 139:17-24
Key points
vs. 17 – God’s thoughts are precious to a righteous man like King David!
vs. 19 – surely God will slay (slaughter) the wicked? …hmm God’s thoughts include violence against “Human beings”?
verses 20 – 24 – that’s kinda self explanotory .. God has enemies .. people do hate God (and hate his word .. and would rather worship a Babylonian named Selassie …but you’re gonna prove he wasn’t .. right?).. anyway.. King David, a man after God’s heart says he hates with a perfect hatred… wow .. and you accuse me of hate?
King David just say that he HATES people , human beings … C’mon man .. Selassie hated the Italians for invading his country in 1936 ..am I correct?
So it’s your call .. I would pick another article to dispute .. but please don’t try to bring Christ into your lies.. that’s where I’m best at.. we (the Israelites that attend classes at the Israelite Church of God In Jesus Christ) are experts in the scriptures when it comes to Jesus Christ … that might sound like bragging or boasting .. but have you not read…
“Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.”
Acts 4:13
or …
“For if I have boasted any thing to him of you, I am not ashamed; but as we spake all things to you in truth, even so our boasting, which I made before Titus, is found a truth. ”
2 Corinthians 7:14
I am not boasting that I .. am a great teacher .. my boasting is that I am a part of the true believers that are obviously highly qualified to teach and prove all that we say .. I’m still waiting for your facts …
Ras Tafari and jr gong Damian Marley
January 30, 2007
I got tired waiting for only an ounce of your “tons of research”. So, I’ve taken the discussion about this article to my blog.
[Saints Unit response]
Well sir, I hope you understand that your impatience isn’t going to speed up the process .. the pages still have to be done.. now ..let me make this one thing clear ..actually two things..
1. The information is going to be based on “tons of research”.. that doesn’t mean I’m going to put all that “research” on line .. just enough to challenge all so called historians and professonal know-it-alls…
2. I want you to take to discussion to your board, to your friends, to other people that think they know a thing or two.. before it’s all said and done .. everyone that you talk to will either agree with me .. or continue to agree with you .. fair enough?
Let’s see…
“Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles“.
Isaiah 13:2
So trust me I alread know that you were going to do that .. the word of the Lord cannot be contained in a blog.. so you’re supposed to talk to your freinds, your teachers, professors.. everyone that thinks they know more than God’s word. I’ll bet they won’t be able to disprove either..
“10: Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11: This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12: Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 13: Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. 14: And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it. 15: But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves, 16: Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.”
Acts 4:10-16
Now obviously I’m not healing anyone physically.. however the information that we present is going to free all the true believers from that madness you guys call religion or culture.. Selassie and the worship of Selassie is utter confusion! So that’s where we come in.. where we fit in the picture.. we boldly teach the truth and expose that phone religion of smoking “ganja” and worshipping Ethiopia as a holy culture and “roots”..please!
By the way we have a TV show called the Hidden Truth that exposes all these phony-cronies .. Lord’s will we will have one on Selassie soon.
Want to watch our show .. national listing, or view our local listing.
Masimba Musodza
February 10, 2007
I worship GOD and just becuase you have read and reread the scriptures does not mean that you know the meanings behind them. Any person who judges shall be jugded. Any person who hates shall learn what hatred is.I live in peace and love and I dont need some fearmongerers to tell me that I cant live with love and kindness because it doesnt fit their pretty picture. You are all crazy. You hate a man that you dont know and are too ignorant to even read about. And then you preach about knowlegde. I am rastafarian but I dont worship ethiopia what the hell are you talking about. You are so misinformed its laughable. You just hate for the sake of hateing because you want to be accepted. That doesnt sound like any scripture Ive ever read. You are pathetic. How many people even come to this site? Why dont they come to this site or comment? Bacause they can see you are all crazy and responses will fall on deaf ears. Most people dont even waste enough time to try to save your pathetic little souls but I did. And I shouldnt have. I hope you all find love someday instead of hate. That is what Satan feeds on. But you are so holy it is ok for you to hate I guess. Sounds like a hipoctitic loonatic to me. Please stop the hate that is what Satan wants. You are playing into his hands by being so ingorant.
[Saints Unit Response]
Mr. Butler you’re going to have to learn to control your emotions. We’re dealing with facts here. I’m not getting upset, we’re having an intelligent conversation.
What I have posted shows that I have a much greater understanding in the Bible that you may ever have.. most of you guys that profess to honor Selassie have never even read the Bible more than twice ..am I correct? (at least no other book than the Psalms). So here’s what I want you to do Mr. Butler, please show some of this research that you have that has you so convinced that this moron Selassie can offer you salvation. Instead of attacking my character, why don’t you present some facts for a change?
See…in a nice even and calm tone.
Mr. Butler
February 19, 2007
Where is your research you say you have?
Nothing makes me more angry than a person who repesents himself of as a man of GOD talk so disrespectfully of a person he doesn’t even know.
Have you read anything he has written?
You give christians a bad name talking like this. No wonder people are so quick to follow other GODs. At least their is a message of love and hope within their writings.
You are a pathetic little person trying desperately to feel good about him/herself by belittling others. That will not stand in my GODS eyes. What do you think about that. And I am not mad at all when you actually post my comments on this site instead of choosing to take out the ones that show (by your lack of response) how ignorant you truly are. You Have not answered any of my questions at all you just keep trying to tell me how smart you are. And how anyone not like your sick little cult here are going to hell. Pretty strong words why don’ you back them up for once. Where is your research? Why do you hate so easily a person you don’t know. What if it was Jesus at your door would you let him in if he was acting like a Rasta?
[Saints Unit response]
I don’t have to validate myself to you Mr. Butler. In the Bible .. God hates…simply said..now instead of trying to attack my character.. why don’t you present information to refute what I have posted?
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
And by the way, How many times did you have to read the bible to understand it’s message? Are you still trying or what?
[Saints Unit response]
I’ll answer that like this… If you can believe Selassie’s words… surely you can believe that Christ still speaks to his true followers.
Jesus Christ is teaching me …. I’m learning his word, at the mouth of his holy prophets.. that’s why you can’t refute a word I have said and have only resorted to grade school tactics and playground name calling .. bring forth your strong reasoning..
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
My knowledge has not been limited to 1500 years ago why don’t you read something else? Like actually read what Selassie I was saying.
[Saints Unit response]
…. er… no response… (sigh)
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
What character are you talking about? My grandfather used to call people like you characters too. Is that what you mean?
[Saints Unit ...no response]
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
When did I say Selassie gave me salvation. What are you talking about?
Every man has been given salvation. Jesus made sure of that.
now what does that say? Can you even read up there in your hillbilly cult?
[Saints Unit response]
Mr. Butler come on now.. you’re turning this blog into an avenue for you to ventilate your frustration against me. Obviously my intelligence and reading abilities have been clearly demonstrated in the posting that I have made.
What scripture says that Jesus made sure that all men received salvation?
Have you not read the words of Jesus Christ?
“But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.”
Matthew 23:13
So Jesus Christ told the Pharisees that they are not going into the kingdom of heaven.. so where are they going?
“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”
Matthew 23:33
or most peoples favorite….
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16
What about the people that don’t believe in Christ? Is he going to guarantee them salvation Mr. Butler? let’s read vs. 18…
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
John 3:18
Are they not all men? Why were they not given a chance of salvation as you claim?
Let’s minimize the aggressively personal rhetoric Mr. Butler (translation: stop getting personal with me) ..Or, I will be forced to interdict your extemporaneous ramblings. (Did I loose you with those words Mr. Butler?)
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
The reason I am attacking your character is because it is clouding you from common sense. GOD didn’t say anything about abandoning your common sense.
[Saints Unit response]
…not even going to comment .. this doesn’t even make any sense…
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
Mohamed Hersi Bahal
Where is your proof you offer the muslim interpretation of history and givin the current state of unrest in the world that is not an opinion I am very open to. Do you really believe that women are lower than dogs? That explains your bias very easily. It is in the open for everyone to se even though you choose to continue this babel.
[Saints Unit response]
Mr. Butler ..come on.. it’s not polite to put words in someone’s mouth. Not one time did I ever say that I believe than women are lower than dogs..
but since you brought it up..
How does the Lord God of the Bible feel about the Israelite women?
“24: And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. 25: And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.”
Exodus 2:24-25
The Lord has the utmost respect for the children of Israel. Now maybe the “muslims” that you’ve ran into teach that their women are “lower than dogs” ..but I’ll explain that in a moment.
“17: There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 18: Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”
Deuteronomy 23:17-18
So Mr. Butler, the daughters of Israel are above dogs.. now.. what happens when an Israelite woman.. a daughter of God, a princess on this earth allows the other nations to defile her by marrying the other nations and giving birth to the children of the heathen?
“22: Thus shall it go also with the wife that leaveth her husband, and bringeth in an heir by another. 23: For first, she hath disobeyed the law of the most High; and secondly, she hath trespassed against her own husband; and thirdly, she hath played the whore (remember whores = dogs) in adultery, and brought children by another man. 24: She shall be brought out into the congregation, and inquisition shall be made of her children. 25: Her children shall not take root, and her branches shall bring forth no fruit. 26: She shall leave her memory to be cursed, and her reproach shall not be blotted out. 27: And they that remain shall know that there is nothing better than the fear of the Lord, and that there is nothing sweeter than to take heed unto the commandments of the Lord.”
Ecclesiasticus 23:22-27
So obviously Mr. Butler it is beneath an Israelite woman to leave her people to go and bring children by another..
First let me prove that this is not just talking about leaving her husband for another Israelite man..
“1: When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2: And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3: Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4: For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. 5: But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6: For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.”
Deuteronomy 7:1-6
So you see Mr. Butler, an Israelite woman is not to commit adultery “cheat” on her husband, neither is she allowed to marry other nations.. if she does this she is considered a “whore”.
“25: A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord.”
Ecclesiasticus 26:25
Now again.. I don’t know what these Muslims told you about their women or why they think their women are below dogs ..if that’s what you’re saying … but I have a clue.
“24: And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid. 25: For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:26: The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. 27: But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. 28: And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs. 29: And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.”
Mark 7:24-29
Wow!. …Jesus Christ in his conversation with this Greek – Syrophenician woman, compared her to a dog… and she said yes Lord! Could this be why the Muslims believe this? All other women besides the daughters of Zion are dogs… interesting Mr. Butler don’t you think?
Now my final point …
“10: And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11: Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12: And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14: And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
Revelation 21:10-14
The Kingdom of Heaven is for the children of Israel … Knowing that only Israelite men and women can enter the kingdom .. the gates are labeled with the names of the 12 Tribes … which includes the Israelite women … self explanatory right?
So what about the women of other nations? Where do the women that are NOT Israelite women fit in all this?
“14: Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15: For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. ”
Revelation 22:14-15
So you see Mr. Butler, there’s is no way I could have said that the Israelite women are “lower than dogs”.. the Edomite women yes, the women of Moab, Ammon, Babylonian ..yeah they are dogs (according to the word of God)..but the Israelite women? No sir, they are princesses walking among men.
Mr. Butler
February 26, 2007
Mohamed
If you had your way I would imagine you would still have all the people you could kidnap to become slaves as before. Maybe even you too Saints Unit?
[Saints Unit response]
Well Mr. Butler.. that depends on whom I’m kidnapping doesn’t it? The children of Israel never had to resort to kidnapping to get slaves… we simply took them BY the authority of the Almighty God.
“38: I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God. 39: And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant: 40: But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile: 41: And then shall he depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return. 42: For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen. 43: Thou shalt not rule over him with rigour; but shalt fear thy God. 44: Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45: Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46: And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. ”
Leviticus 25:46
Mr. Butler ..let me remind you that I do not make empty statements… and whatever you accuse me of.. I’m sure I can show you that according to the Bible.. which is the word of God.. there is no fault in me. Can you do the same?
I and I
February 26, 2007
Even if you refuse to put my comments on your site can you offer me the dignity to correct something I said?
By saying I was the RAS Tafari or Damian Jr. Gong Marley I in no way believe that I represent their opinions or belief I only wish to represent the peace and freedom from my old wicked ways that I have obtained by their writings, lyrics and just heavenly personanas. I want to make sure noone actually believes that was any of their representatives or otherwise. Thank you and Im still waiting for your answeres to the questions I asked of you on FEB 26.
[Saints Unit response]
As you should know by now, my life doesn’t revolve around posting on this blog. I do this to keep guys like you conversational. I will respond to your “questions” when I make the time..until then.. you have to floor to present some research to refute what I have posted..
I and I
February 26, 2007
lol well mr butler you come out whith so much emotions and anger keep your emotions to your self and your anger if you are a real man come Whith the scriptures not you mouth lol ..
blackings
March 8, 2007
I do not believe that Selassie I is God or Christ incarnate but the wisdom an insight brought through his word has led me to this site and all of its hatred. Now everyone reading this site can see the hatred incited by these supposedly god loving people. I am only writing on this site to expose the evil and wickedness that is now done in HIS name by pathetic people with self esteem issues.
I am not disputing anything of facts on this site (even though they may and probably are incorrect or at the least misguiding) I am only talking about your misguided interpretations of the bible that can cause you to hate. That says it all
misguided interpretations of the bible that can cause you to hate
[Saints Unit response]
Mr. Butler.. either you prove me wrong or get over it and move on..Why do you insist on using this forum to try and convince me to sympathize with Selassie and his blind followers?
Let’s move on man.. I’m going to start blocking your posts unless you start coming with some information, some research.. save your opinions for your own blog!
me
March 20, 2007
The legendary founder of the Ethiopian empire, Menelik was the son of King Solomon of Israel and Makeda, the Queen of Sheba. The wise king already foresaw his birth at the time of the queen’s departure from his court, and as a farewell gift gave her a ring which bore his seal. He also told her to send their child to him if it was a son.
[Saints Unit response]
lol ..oh boy, I think you guys are really mixing the history of Abraham with the history of Solomon.. (went over your head).
Abraham had many children..BUT the seed that God chose was Isaac. All of Solomon’s children are recorded in the Bible, it is against the laws of Israel for us to have children out of wedlock..so Solomon and Makeda would have been married!
“18: A man that breaketh wedlock, saying thus in his heart, Who seeth me? I am compassed about with darkness, the walls cover me, and no body seeth me; what need I to fear? the most High will not remember my sins:
19: Such a man only feareth the eyes of men, and knoweth not that the eyes of the Lord are ten thousand times brighter than the sun, beholding all the ways of men, and considering the most secret parts.”
Ecclesiasticus 23:18-19
That way the child doesn’t grow up a “bastard” ..because he would have been raised without a father…
Then again, maybe Menelik really was a bastard… since nobody seems to know who his daddy was..lol
Me
March 22, 2007
in your explanation of women being dogs (very informative by the way), can you give me the background of the passages? You keep saying this is Gods word. Who wrote it? I tell you the truth when I say that God himself did not pick up a pen and write those passages. Who where they written for? It is a different world now than when these historic words were written.
I believe in the message of adultery and sin but if you are implying that only one race is allowed into the kingdom of heaven or are in some way holier than any other that just feels wrong doesn’t it? Isn’t that what lead to slavery and the kind of corruption and destruction that directly goes against everything holy. Just because Jesus had the right to judge women to be like dogs why do you believe you have the same power. Are you Jesus?
[Saints Unit response]
Mr. Butler .. here’s where you stand as of right now.
First, all these sources that you cited about Solomon and Menelik are fictitious misunderstandings by foolish and unlearned men that are claiming to see something that’s not there. Now as much as you hypocrites question who wrote the Bible.. BUT yet, you are all quick to cite a verse in the Bible where The Queen of Sheba came to meet Solomon! This Ethiopian woman, as you should already know are the Chaldeans, and they were known for their wisdom..however, when she met Solomon, she realized that just like the scriptures say in 1 Corinthians chapter 1 “The wisdom of this world is foolishness..”
After this meeting..she was sent home!
Now, All these guys you quoted claim that some how Solomon had a son named David II, right? Now where is that in the scriptures that Solomon had a son named Menelik or David II?
Secondly, you are copying and pasting info from Lord knows where..maybe wikipedia, but I’m only guessing. Now none of these so called scholars lived during the time of Solomon so the only thing we have to go by Mr. Butler is the words of God, the Bible.
There is no scripture that you can find that proves Solomon had children by Makeda.
Let me re-post this so you can see for yourself. This is what was actually written and none of those idiots that you mentioned can show where in these verses Solomon fathered a child with the Queen of Sheba. Solomon had 1,000 women..NOT 1,001! Makeda didn’t make the cut..lol
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Question: Did king Solomon really have a son named Menelik?
Answer: NO! You can read the names of King Solomon’s children that became kings after his reign.
Question: So what about 1 Kings chapter 10 vs. 1-10
1: And when the queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the LORD, she came to prove him with hard questions.
2: And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.
3: And Solomon told her all her questions: there was not any thing hid from the king, which he told her not.
4: And when the queen of Sheba had seen all Solomon’s wisdom, and the house that he had built,
5: And the meat of his table, and the sitting of his servants, and the attendance of his ministers, and their apparel, and his cupbearers, and his ascent by which he went up unto the house of the LORD; there was no more spirit in her.
Answer: Makeda (Queen of Sheba) was in awe of the riches of King Solomon.. “no more spirit in her”. She had never witnessed anyone that was as glorious as Solomon the Israelite King.
Let’s read on..
6: And she said to the king, It was a true report that I heard in mine own land of thy acts and of thy wisdom.
7: Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.
8: Happy are thy men, happy are these thy servants, which stand continually before thee, and that hear thy wisdom.
9: Blessed be the LORD thy God, which delighted in thee, to set thee on the throne of Israel: because the LORD loved Israel for ever, therefore made he thee king, to do judgment and justice.
10: And she gave the king an hundred and twenty talents of gold, and of spices very great store, and precious stones: there came no more such abundance of spices as these which the queen of Sheba gave to king Solomon.
So the Queen, like everyone else that was awestruck by King Solomon paid homage by giving healthy donations of their riches to us….now let’s see if she ‘found favor in the eyes” of King Solomon, or if he “delighted in her” and “took her to wife”…
verse 13: And king Solomon gave unto the queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside that which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants.
Ok…so whatsoever she asked… again in verses 2-3
2: And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.
3: And Solomon told her all her questions: there was not any thing hid from the king, which he told her not.
So all her desire was that he answered every question and sent her home….but some people claim that meant that he got her pregnant and sent her home…when did that happen?
* In what chapter/verse or on what page can we read where the Queen of Sheba sent messengers to King Solomon that his son was born in Ethiopia?
* At what point in the books of Kings, Chronicles or in any of the writings of the Bible did King Solomon send for his son Menelik?
* When the Kingdom was split in two (Judah and Israel), why is there no mention of a king named Menelik?
So many people put so much faith in this one account of the only meeting of Solomon and Makeda (Queen of Sheba) when in fact, it is well documented in Ethiopian history that the story of Menelik is a fable.
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Now do you see?
Finally… let me say this Mr. Butler.. because on one hand you claim that you want to reason, then you slip your snide little remarks in your postings..and don’t worry about the tone of my speech, Id be happy to show you that I have a God given right to not only call the other nations dogs and insects..but I am supposed to teach the word of God with boldness and without any fear!
As of today, Friday, March 23rd, 2007 – we will no longer accept any postings from Mr. Bulter..unless he returns with some more credible proof!
If you disagree with what is being said, the Bible tells us to prove all things. Prove your points, bring your facts.
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”
1 Thessalonians 5:21
NEVER speak against the words of truth!
“24: For by speech wisdom shall be known: and learning by the word of the tongue.
25: In no wise speak against the truth; but be abashed of the error of thine ignorance.”
Ecclesiasticus 4:24-25
If you are not sure if what is being said is true.. then go do your research!
“6: Many mighty men have been greatly disgraced; and the honourable delivered into other men’s hands.
7: Blame not before thou hast examined the truth: understand first, and then rebuke.
8: Answer not before thou hast heard the cause: neither interrupt men in the midst of their talk. “
Ecclesiasticus 11:6-8
We will not allow you to mock and scorn the words of God just because the truth hurts! Prove me wrong or get over it!
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Proverbs 1:22
So finally, unless you (Mr. Butler) go and sit down with your teachers and return with facts to dispute or refute, your comments will be automatically deleted. No more cut and paste from wikipedia or some website you saw from doing google searches.. sit down with the teachers of Rastafariansm or someone who is actually from Ethiopia that knows his facts..then make your next posting!
“Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.”
Proverbs 22:10
PS: Since you question the authenticity of the Bible.. find another source of proof!
S-S-S-Saints Unit!
me
March 22, 2007
it is against the laws of Israel for us to have children out of wedlock..so Solomon and Makeda would have been married!
Abraham had a child named ishmael out of wedlock and with a maidservant I believe that was in genesis
[Saints Unit response]
“Mr. Butler, you’re supposed to be getting with your teachers to bring the irrefutable proof. Now why would you drag the holy prophet Abraham into this? Why do you think that these questions are hard to answer?
Think about what you are saying..how could Abraham be guilty of breaking wedlock with a slave?
You mentioned (that you think it’s in) Genesis.. let me teach you the truth about Ishmael..and I will prove that it was God’s will that Ishmael be cast out and not be allowed to grow up in Isaacs presence..
““22: For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23: But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.”
Galatians 4:22-23
Ishmael was born after the flesh .. out of a need for Abraham to have an heir, Sarah offered up her “Slave” Hagar (Agar).
Isaac on the other hand was born to fulfill prophecy..
“27: For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28: Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.”
Galatians 4:27-28
“29: But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30: Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.”
Galatians 4:29-30
Ishmael was a spoiled brat that mocked Sarah when she was praising God for giving her a son…again Isaac was a blessed child from God..Ishmael …was ..well.. he’s not even important anymore is he?
Even though Ishmael was Abraham’s son.. who allowed Abraham to kick the little brat out?
“1: And the LORD visited Sarah as he had said, and the LORD did unto Sarah as he had spoken. 2: For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3: And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him, whom Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 4: And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5: And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him. 6: And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me. 7: And she said, Who would have said unto Abraham, that Sarah should have given children suck? for I have born him a son in his old age. 8: And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.”
Genesis 21:1-8
At the birth of Isaac, Sarah was overjoyed and praised God.
“And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.”
Genesis 21:9
While Sarah was thanking God for this baby..what was this little bastard doing? Mocking Sarah while she prayed! (I’ll prove in a minute that Ishmael became a bastard..and the Arabs are children of a Bastard son!)
“10: Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. 11: And the thing was very grievous in Abraham’s sight because of his son.”
Genesis 21:10-11
Now Sarah was upset, because Ishmael (the bastard father of the Arabs) was mocking her and demanded that her “Slave” be thrown out!
Why was it grievous, because Abraham wasn’t some cold hearted deadbeat dad, and it’s a hard thing to take a woman and her young child and tell them to get out..so he went and asked God… what do you think God said to Abraham concerning Ishmael (the bastard father of the Arabs)?
“And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.”
Genesis 21:12
hearken unto her voice? ..you mean..
“10: Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. 11: And the thing was very grievous in Abraham’s sight because of his son.”
Genesis 21:10-11
So let’s see what Abraham did..
“14: And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba.”
Genesis 21:14
Abraham kicked this slave out because GOD TOLD HIM TO.. Abraham is not guilty of breaking wedlock Mr. Bulter, that’s why I told you before, sit down with your teachers before you post anything else because you obviously don’t know enough to challenge the gospel..
but anyway.. so now that we know that Hagar was told to beat it..and was given rations to last her till the next city..let’s see what happened..
“15: And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs. 16: And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.”
Genesis 21:15-16
wow.. Hagar drank up all the water and threw Ishmael into the bushes..lol Then she went and sat a little distance off (bow shot means the distance you can shoot an arrow)..she knew that this child could not survive but didn’t have the heart to watch him die.. THEN, went and sat on a rock and cried..she Gave up Mr. Butler..lol She didn’t pray or call out to God for help..she gave up..like all the heatehn do. The angel came and told her to go pick the boy up because God had already told Abraham that he was going to bless Ishmael with riches, and just because he (God) gave Abraham the OK the give her (Hagar) the boot.. he (God) was still going to keep his word and bless the little bastard, Ismael (the bastard father of the Arabs).
Now let me prove that Ishmael is a bastard..
“1: Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. 2: And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. 3: And Jokshan begat Sheba, and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim, and Letushim, and Leummim. 4: And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abida, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah. 5: And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac. 6: But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country. 7: And these are the days of the years of Abraham’s life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years. “
Genesis 25:1-7
Let’s hope the gifts were more than bread and water!
1: And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt (test) Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. 2: And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.”
Genesis 22:1-2
Thine only son.. whom thou lovest? wow..that’s cold..
so what about the other sons of Keturah?
“7: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8: That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. 9: For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.”
Romans 9:7-9
The children of Keturah don’t count!
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one…”
Galatians 3:16
Only one of Abraham’s sons counted in the eyes of God…
How does God feel about Ishmael and ALL the other sons of Abraham?
“7: If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8: But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.”
Hebrews 12:7-8
The sons of God are the children of Israel..everybody else ..including Ishmael, Esau, the Ethiopians..ARE ALL BASTARDS!
So again..how could Abraham have broken wedlock with a slave and a child God calls a bastard?
Steven Butler
March 24, 2007
Shalam apostle. I have been looking for the scripture you posted that states“2: I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; 3: A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; 4: Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine’s flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; 5: Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. ” Beautiful words from our Lord Jesus Christ but I wanted to know where I can read that in the bible. Thawadah.
[Saints Unit Response]
Correction: The Apostle’s site (Apostle & Chief High Priest Tazadaqyah – The Comforter) is http://thecomforter.info/
My position in the church is that of a general (captain of the host)
“And after Ahithophel was Jehoiada the son of Benaiah, and Abiathar: and the general of the king’s army was Joab.”
1 Chronicles 27:34
The scripture you’re referring to is in Isaiah 65:1-5
Saints Unit!
“Dividing Babylon one city at a time!”
Ahlayah
April 5, 2007
I am sorry sir, and thank you!
[Saints Unit response]
Shalam to you as well.. no problem.
Ahlayah
April 5, 2007
“12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel” Revelation 21:9-27
of whom is Israel, not esau not moab but Israel
“As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Romans 9:6-13
“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel” Matthew 15:24
[Saints Unit response]
Yes sir! you hit the nail right on the head.. how can these nations, especially Esau think they’re going to get into the Kingdom of Heaven when both the Father and the Son hate them?
PS: And that includes the Ethiopians too and the Arabs which we proved are bastards in the eyes of God..lol
ISLAM and ALL religions are BASTARD beliefs, because these nations don’t have a God!…lol
“For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. “
Psalms 96:5
from judah
April 9, 2007
Your words are full of lies and misinformation, far too many to adress all, but for the record here are two “Ras” in Amharic translates to prince. Your allegations regarding Marcus Garvey cannot hold water and have never been substantiated. He is alleged to have said “When a black man is crowned prince in Africa look to him as the new Messiah.” He did start the Black Star Liner, The back to Africa movement and UNIA. After Halie Selassie was deposed the Lion of Judah symbol was removed from the flag and replaced by the star. Perhaps you should do a bit more research befor spreading such outrageous lies and propganda. Who do you work for the CIA? I am curoius what your haeful motivation is, and pray for your deliverance from the bilndness of ignorance and hatred.
[Saints unit response]
Are you guys still griping over Selassie..the dead and won’t be forgotten heathen?
How is it that I am accused of hate?
After all the slander that the so-called blacks in America and in the Caribbean, the so-called Hispanics and the so-called native American Indians have endured..you have a right to accuse me of hatred?
Falashas
What I have said is the truth, the so-called Ethiopians living in Israel are mocking my history be claiming to be descendants of the tribes of Israel. They sometimes go by the name “Falasha”. This is a strange doctrine indeed.. while on one hand many so-called Rabbi’s will quickly tell you that this term “Falasha” (which means ’stranger’ or ‘landless’) was supposedly first used when it was discovered that there was a colony of Jews in Abyssinia (supposedly the family of Menilek, the imaginary son of Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.
Now on the other hand there is NO HISTORIAN THAT CAN PROVE THAT SOLOMON HAD A SON NAMED MENILEK OR THAT THESE BOZOS ARE EVEN REMOTELY RELATED TO THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL!
The Falasha Ethiopian is a myth, the Bible clearly tells you how God (whom you call Jah feels about the Ethiopians)
Here’s where you idiots go off..
“Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.”
Psalms 68:4
Let’s read on..
“31: Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God. 32: Sing unto God, ye kingdoms of the earth; O sing praises unto the Lord; Selah”
Psalms 68:31-32
So you foolish and unlearned men read that and think that the Ethiopians people have some kind of spiritual ties with the Lord God of Israel.
It is a fact that the so called Falasha Ethiopians were rejected by the Israeli rabbi’s because you guys coudn’t even speak that Yiddish language (even though they try to pass it off as Hebrew). The falasha didn’t keep any of the “rabbinical customs”..they sat around in their temples..oops…that’s not correct..the Falasha worship in mosques.. they’re called “masjid”.. I know the difference between a synagogue and a mosque. The burn their incense and made up their own prayers (written in Ge’ez) …they teach their flock that Abraham was from UR of Chaldea which they recognize as the fore-father of ALL ETHIOPIANS… They got in the land of Israel in the 80’s due to “Operation Moses” and the U.S. government’s “Operation Sheba.”
Let’s continue to read on…
“34: Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency is over Israel, and his strength is in the clouds. 35: O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel is he that giveth strength and power unto his people. Blessed be God.”
Psalms 68:34-35
The book of Psalms..which was written by the man you call Menilek’s Grandfather makes it plain that the Lord God in Heaven is the God of the Israelites only!
PLEASE FIND ANY SCRIPTURE WHERE KING SOLOMON SPEAKS HIGHLY OF ETHIOPIA!
Edwah
May 5, 2007
I agree that he is not the reincarnation of the lord, But I also believe someone that calls themselves a Christian would also know that God created us all in his image. That means the good the bad etc… It is sad and possibly racist that you would go this far to discredit and belittle a whole country region and race of people by using half truths and misquotes from the bible considering the bible was re-written several times and is clearly fallible. Man (the controlling class) right the history and literiture that we see today what do you expect when we all have the euro-centric King James version of the Bible. Open your mind and do the Bible and our God some justice. You make all christians look bad.
[Saints Unit Response]
I’ve gotten quite a few responses on this article that I purposely chose not to acknowledge… why?
“Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.”
Proverbs 26:5
And again..
“How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?”
Proverbs 1:22
I chose to respond to you, because I can do that.. I don’t have to answer or respond to anyone I don’t feel like responding to, and includes my own people that try to justify the belief that all nations can be acceptable to God. Some people might call that being cocky..but in fact, the BIBLE tells us that the Israelites are God’s chosen people. If I am in fact chosen over the “gentiles” or rather “heathen” ..I don’t have to answer to you.. you answer to us!. Now, GOD CHOSE THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, so how in GOD’s NAME can I be racist? Who are you to question God’s choice or the preference he has shown to me? So again, If God chose me, I don’t have explain myself to you or anyone.. there are people today in Israel claiming to be Jews..they’re not being questioned or asked to explain themselves ..”why do you guys think you’re special or better than us?”.. and they are converts and imposters! Now when a “black man” says that’s he’s better than the heathen, he’s racist and and fool. Oh well..that’s your opinion on me, and I have over 10,000 years of documented proof that the God of the Bible prefers the Children of Israel over any other nationality.
Now, let me make one thing perfectly clear.. the Children of Israel (so-called African Americans, West Indians, Native Americans, Haitians and Hispanic peoples of North, Central and South America) are not obligated to be concerned with how the world views our beliefs. The Bible tells us that the world would hate us, all the Biblical nations hated the children of Israel and took every opportunity to bring them into captivity and destroy our homeland and temple..that’s a Biblical fact! Our laws and culture was given to us from the mouth of God, and cannot be changed. When you read the Bible in it’s entirety, which most so-called Christians refuse to do, because they think the God of the Old Testament was a mean and separatist God that would destroy the heathen for the sake of his people.You’ll learn this about God.
“For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
Malachi 3:6
God doesn’t have a temporary opinion on man.. the nations or anything.. he created all things for his pleasure and the pots cannot question why God made all these races on the planet earth..and only chose the children of Israel.. he is not concerned with them.
“1: Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, 2: You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.”
Amos 3:1-2
I’m glad you guys are mad as hell..good! The word of God is supposed to have that effect..it’s supposed to shake everything up.. That’s good, that means I’m doing my job..Now you know how the heathen felt when they heard that the God of Israel had destroyed Egypt, and the Israelites were taking the land of Canaan and destroying all those that refused to leave! So with that being said.. I speak as one having authority from God to tell all the nations that according to the words of God, and not my own opinion..the Lord God of Israel..which is the God of the Bible.. is only concerned with the Children of Israel..and within the nation of the Israelites, he is only concerned with the righteous. That’s a fact and whomever reads this know that they cannot deny it, and they should also know that as an Israelite that believes what is written… I don’t need anyone to validate the Bible or to stamp an approval on the Bible. The words of God in the Bible are faithful and true.
You hypocrites can question the Bible all you want, but here’s what you fools and scoffers have forgotten..regardless of what man tries to do with the written records.. burn it, change it, teach lies about it..there is nothing that you can do to change the mind of God and he states that HE ONLY LOVES THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL!! go back and read the history of Egypt, and Assyria, and Babylon, and Moab, the Philistines, and the Canaanites, and Greece and Rome..etc. etc. etc. They all testify that the God of the Children of Israel, destroyed their kingdoms for the sake of the children of Israel.. and you know that to be true!. …don’t you? Even when they lie and try to cover that up.. they cannot offer another explanation as to why their kingdoms fell. Ask the Egyptians to explain why their mighty kingdom fell.. they hate to admit that it was the God of Israel that did it..so they play dumb and say.. “I don’t know” lol LIARS, how can you not know why your empire is reduced to a tourist attraction..people visit Egypt not to see Egyptian magnificence, they go to see the pyramids that the Israelites build….lol
Now let me get to my point..How is it that in one breath you speak highly of all that call themselves Christiansthen accuse man of changing and re-writing the Bible? If anything woudln’t it have been the Christians that re-wrote the Bible?
According to you the Bible is “clearly fallible”..You just made yourself look foolish…how?.. because that would mean that your “understanding” of the Bible is based on a “re-written” and “clearly fallible” book. So if you’re correct about the Bible being changed .. you would have no idea what the original doctrine of the Bible was, now would you?
Again.. according you..it’s been changed and re-written by man (the controlling class).. so what was the original teaching before all these re-written and changed Bibles? Obviously what I’m saying is not the product of generations of changing the Bible.. because the churches established in the world don’t acknowledge what I say to be even remotely close to the truth.. you guys believe that we can all be Christians.. could that be the re-written changed doctrine? When Jesus Christ walked the earth as a so-called black man, he was hated, murdered and hung on a tree.. when he was just a baby, Herod slaughtered 1,000’s of innocent Israelite children to keep his seat and position as king of the Jews.
Then you have the nerve to say a “euro-centric King James version of the Bible”. You guys are spiteful and hateful and have the nerve to speak against a great man.. a man that the Lord God in heaven chose to have his word preserved. How is it that when you hypocrites do something you are quick to make excuses for yourselves.. “well I’m not prefect” and “Jesus died for my sins”.. so you’re in good standings with God, BUT King James…naw.. he was just a wicked black devil huh? (Because King James was a black king) .. you couldn’t stand next to King Jame’s shoes much less walk in them..hypocrite!
Oh.. I can say that..
“An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.”
Proverbs 11:9
I thought Christians were supposed to love their neighbors? But you’re not a Christian.. you guys are a generation of vipers!
Oh..I almost forgot.. The Lord God says it’s okay to speak against a man (Selassie) or the Ethiopian people!
“When he giveth quietness, who then can make trouble? and when he hideth his face, who then can behold him? whether it be done against a nation, or against a man only:”
Job 34:29
So please continue to murmur amongst yourselves because you can’t stop this, we are going to get bigger and better and more of these so-called religious are going to be exposed..Selassie was just the fist we dealt with.
Dr. Bob Dobolina
May 26, 2007
Wow. Just wow. Shalam sir. Definitely gotta say, i’m runnin late for work b/c i couldn’t stop reading. Man, that Mr. Butler guy? Madness. These other cats? They can’t gainsay or resist! Any readers who haven’t realized this is the truth yet? It’s just gotta be hid from them. So truly blessed are our eyes which see and our ears which. Thawadah sir for fightin’ the fight, and crushing these false doctrines left and right. But all props go back to the God sent Comforter, who teaches these breakdowns, and the Lord our God of ISRAEL who prayed to the Father for Him, and who did so much more just for US–his people! Yasharahla. Shalam thamyad sir. (gotta get ready for work now!
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[Saints Unit response]
Thawadah sis. Kan, some people really want this Hamite to be special..I can’t wait till the Comforter get to the Vatican and Israel and let those Edomite nobodies have it!.. lol
Brittney from the Church at Baltimore
June 18, 2007
is the arab nation gods people. iraq,so and so forthh.
[Sains Unit response]
The Arabs are a separate nation of people from us. We are descendants of Isaac and they are the children of Ishmael. There are however, Israelites that live among the Arabs.
“5: And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6: Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7: And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8: And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9: Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10: Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11: Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”
Acts 2:5-11
In these last days and times, the Spirit of the Most High, is working through the Comforter, Apostle & Chief High Priest Tazadaqyah to gather these tribes back together.
“12: Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you. 13: And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. 14: And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.”
Jeremiah 29:12-14
dwayne amsterdam
August 8, 2007
Very interesting. I want to thank you for sharing this information with me. I have a very close friend who is a Ras Tifarian. I am always confused as to whom he is talking about when he says, “The Most High” and “Jah”. He acknowledges Jesus as the Son of The Most High. But, anyway, thanks for the info.
[Saints unit response]
Not a problem. We’re just happy to share the truth about these made up faiths.
Glenn Wilhite
September 13, 2007
That’s about as real as it gets.We need more of the truth told.
[Saints Unit response]
Thank you, and defintely check out the Comforter’s website @ http://www.thecomforter.info/
Mickeyb
November 6, 2007
I love it when you brother’s speak truth to power.
[saints unit response]
Thawadah to you as well.. don’t forget to setup your My Truth Journal on the Comforter’s page if you haven’t already done it.
http://www.thecomforter.info
Charles Herrington
November 7, 2007
Thanks for the article. It was very interesting and I didnt know too much about the figures my West Indian bros and sistas were following. One thing though…..you may want to do a bit of research into Jesus Christ…there’s a lot in a name brethren. Shalom!!
[Saints Unit response]
Just a quick question.. seeing how well researched the article is, and how articulate the answers are.. don’t you think it’s possible that we already researched the name “Jesus Christ” and found that there is nothing wrong with using that name?
SirReal
February 19, 2008
you are doind the work of the book of jude, which is to challenge all false prophets and teachers. jude is the last book before apocalypse and we are leaving in the last days, so, it not coincidence that you guys are doing this work. may the yahweh bless you in the name of his son yahshua. and please when you done with your next work email it to me.
claude
August 30, 2008
you are fantastic
[Saints unit response]
Thank you, we are a fantastic nation. Our mission to encourage people to be more familiar with the life of Christ and to present our people, the children of Israel in a positive light.
bonbellah
September 23, 2008
Fire burn you and your blasphemy! Rastafari Live and rein!!!!!!!!Selassie I
[saints unit response]
Oh really.. what did I say that was blasphemy?
N. McGrath-Wilmeth
October 2, 2008
Dear sir,
It is interesting that you opened this dialogue. But your weakness is you read and referred about Ethiopia and HaileSilassie just for the sake of strengethening your point of arguement with out deepely researching the country and its history.
If you can ask any ordinary ethiopian citizen or scolar, you could understand that Ethiopia has its own long years of history and rich tradition much different and separate from Israel, babylon, persia, greek, Egypt,…The historical link of queen Sheba and King Solomon is a kind of legendery heresay and has been written in Ethiopian manuscripts. This issue has influenced the politics of the country for the last thousands of years and has also been targeted by political oponents of the kingdoms. The change of simbols on the Ethiopian flags are mainly subject to these political changes. In my openion and from my observation on different books, Hailesselasie or Ras teferi has been honored by the black people in latin america and north america since during the Marcus Garvey the black people have been enslaved and put to darkness and hoplessness so that they were convinced that they are inferior to their white masters that the news of a BBlack nation which defeated european army at Adwa and confirmed its sovereigninity, having its own relegion and alphabet and pride enlightened hope to these black slaves. So Marcus Garvey , who was a freedom fighter used the legend of Haileselassie as a driving force to motivate his people. Hailesilassie was was a genius, tacticful and shrued leader and polititian. Also he was a dedicated christian to his Orthodox faith and he made many sacrifices for his faith.(Sorry for my poor English and I will write more if my writing is attractive enough for the you and your readers)
[saints unit response]
You haven’t presented any points other than you disagree.. isn’t that the same thing you’re accusing me of?
The point I made with this article was proving that Selassie is NOT a holy man. As you mentioned, hes is honored by peoples in Latin America, North America and no thanks to Marcus Garvey, the Caribbean.
These people that you have mentioned are the Biblical Israelites and they have honored a man (Selassie) that was falsely promoted as being the re-incarnation of Jesus Christ (hence he was given the titles King of Kings and Lion of Judah)… furthermore… the “legend” that Marcus Garvey used was a “private interpretation” of the Bible.. he put a “heathen” in the place of the Son of God.. and that has to be cleared up.. that Selassie has no lineage going back to King Solomon.
As far as the flag is concerned, that was to show people that follow this cult so-called “Rastafarians” .. The flag that they have with the lion, is not even a real flag. That was the point.
Lastly he was called more than shrewd.. his own people have listed him as one of the worst dictators they ever had in Ethiopian history.
This is what Jesus Christ told us about people like Selassie and the blind men that follow his madness..
John 5:42-44
“42: But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43: I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44: How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?”
Habasha
November 10, 2009